Monday, June 19, 2017

Discussione n. 7: exceptions

I received complaints/exception requests for:

  • My grade was too low - I deserve more
  • I didn't use the correct email subject. So, what's the big deal?
  • I didn't use the correct filename. So, what's the bid deal
  • I didn't write name and due date at the top of the compito. So, what's the big deal?
  • I turned in my compito late. So, what's the big deal.
  • You question if I plagiarized. I owe you no explanation about how I found the stuff I put in the compito.

COMMENT

Which ones of these categories deserve an exception?  Which ones don't?  And, Why?

And feel free to debate via REPLY.

11 comments:

  1. The email subject/filename issues are easily fixable, though I don't know if an entire homework should be dismissed because of one mislabeling. Lateness is more of an issue, since we're working on a time budget, and all students are given the same amount of time to complete their compiti. Plagiarism is also a big issue, since CUNY has a strict policy against it.

    Incidentally, I hope that most student responses aren't really phrased like that, since "What's the big deal?" and "I owe you no explanation" are not conducive to respectful conversation.

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    1. I agree completely. I believe plagarisim should not have an exception, but the wrong email, file or labling should be given leeway. It should not be put on the same pedestal as plagerisim. Lateness is understandable as unexcusable, as it shows lack of responisbility and respect. I am also shocked that any student would email a professor, the line " what's the big deal" it is completely unprofessional.

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    2. I agree completely. I believe plagarisim should not have an exception, but the wrong email, file or labling should be given leeway. It should not be put on the same pedestal as plagerisim. Lateness is understandable as unexcusable, as it shows lack of responisbility and respect. I am also shocked that any student would email a professor, the line " what's the big deal" it is completely unprofessional.

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  2. I don't think the plagiarism issue deserves an exception in any manner however the student should defend their position rather than simply being defensive since it can appear to be an admission of guilt.

    I believe the mislabeling does not necessitate deletion since the student did do the actual homework, however I do understand that constantly keeping up with mislabeled emails from many students would become cumbersome if I were the professor so I do understand but I believe the student should be given a chance to relabel and resubmit the HW.

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  3. I think that the correct email, filename, and written name and date in the assignments may deserve an exception only once in the beginning of the semester. Anything more than once or after the first week should not be acceptable because it has already been stated clearly as a requirement and they have been corrected once before. Students should take extra care to avoid these mistakes.

    Late compiti, low grades, and plagiarizing don't deserve an exception. A deadline is a deadline. This is a fast paced online course. It's not easy, especially for those taking other classes and working, like myself but students just have to keep up. If you get low grades you should analyze what you did wrong previously and make sure to fix it for the next assignment. If accused of plagiarizing, students should provide the source of their work immediately, no questions asked. For this class, the source should always only be wordreference.com or the compito pages.

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  4. Jessica I agree with you I also believe that "the correct email, filename, and written name and date in the assignments may deserve an exception only once in the beginning of the semester." This is a minor mistake and doesn't have to do with the content we are actually working on.

    Next, although I have not submitted any work late, I can see how some students might submit do so. The work is never posted the same days, and we never have the same amount of time to complete all the assignments. JUST LIKE THE ASSIGNMENT DUE TODAY. We had 3 days to complete it, I'm sorry but I believe this is quite unfair. It was the weekend and people aren't on our computers all the time and this assignment was rather lengthly for only 3 days.

    Lastly, I do not think that plagiarism deserves any exception under any circumstances.

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    1. I agree with Megan, plagiarism is a no tolerance policy and due to the "absorbable" material we have received so far I believe there is no need to resort to such drastic measures. In terms of the email structure I believe the rigid nature is important but to not respond to students emails or simply disregard their work is rather harsh due to this being a course focusing on language and not email structure. Yet I am the student and I must abide to your wishes as the teacher. I find myself focusing less on the material and more on the structure of my emails and proper way to answer questions.

      I hope to gain some basic knowledge of the language through this course and hopefully that will be possible.

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  5. I agree with most of my classmates that plagiarism should never merit an exception. I think it is difficult in an online course to have a question answered about such things as verb conjugation or appropriate vocabulary that would normally be answered in a classroom which is why a student may be tempted to use other sources. However, all students should be very clear on what plagiriasm is and understand that it is explicitly forbidden to use outside sources for this class. While I understand the importance of the email subject and filename being correct in order to properly keep track of assignments, I think an exception could be made if it was an honest, first time mistake. The same should go for forgetting to write your name and due date. If this only occurs once, I think an exception could be made since these are lengthy assignments that I am sure students have worked on. In terms of lateness, no credit does seem harsh and I think a reduction in grade for every day late might be an exception that could be made. Expecting a higher grade really doesn't seem as if it should merit an exception, however, if significant progress is made, perhaps the first assessments can carry less weight.

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  6. I believe lateness deserves an exception, based on the circumstances. I agree with Jessica Baez's statement about not having a structural set of due dates to refer to, or even to plan ahead. We don't receive notifications, as we would on blackboard.

    Plagarism should not be tolerated under any circumstances, especially because we receive the school's policy on almost every syllabus. We are offered assistance through wordreference.com, which is a great help.

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  7. I think that lateness should be an exception if it is deemed necessary based on the situation. It is extremely hard to schedule time to do these assignments because there are no set dates on a syllabus of when they are due. On the other hand, plagiarizing should not be tolerated at all because that is a university wide policy that is always enforced.

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  8. I feel like we should be treating this online course as important as we do our in person classes. Therefore, following directions should be the most important aspect. However, I do think there should be an exception for lateness. It becomes harder for people who work long hours all week to get this work done on time. I am not complaining about the work load because it is definitely necessary when we have so much to learn but I feel like there should be a late policy like in most in person courses; lose points each day until it becomes a 0 on the 3-5 day it's late. On the other hand, the category of plagiarism deserves no exception because that is a rule enforced strictly by Brooklyn College.

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